I’m noticing a strange trend. It’s in my writing and it’s becoming more noticeable in the writing of many, many bloggers that I read. What am I talking about? Incoherent blog posts.
These have become the bane of my reading online. I am seeing it everywhere. People are posting short thoughts of larger principles, concepts and ideas that could be fantastic blog posts but turn out to be incoherent cyber-babble.
Let me elaborate before I appear to be a stark raving lunatic.
For me a post is simple (not always executed in such a manner but I always try) and consists of basic things to make it a readable blog post.
Cement an idea or concept in your mind and think it through. Pitch it to your reader in the first paragraph and then present more analytical opinion, fact or information that can substantiate your initial premise.
This could all happen in the space of 3 paragraphs, three sentences or three thousand words, but for crying in a bucket be sure to have an opinion, be conclusive, state things, back them up, do a tiny bit of a research and just pop in a link. You don’t have to rehash things that other people might already have explained, it’s the nature of the internet, hyperlink it.
On top of that, we are in South Africa in case you hadn’t notice, there are a fair amount of blogs that are probably going to be writing or have written about (in some manner or another) what you have written about so see what they had to say and reference them, pull their posts to shreds or applaud their logic, whatever you like, but use their writings to draw them in to your writing. This will entice debate and create a buzz around your writing or blog.
Tyler Reed did it a while back when he broke a story about Amatomu launching. It got him attention and launched him on to the local scene. If you hadn’t had screenshots, and opinion, a review of some sorts people would’ve picked up the story, done their own research and bettered the post. It can be done and has been done.
A couple of examples that I’ve found in the last few days:
Today Paul Slade blogged about social media experts carving their way in to the market and in fact, carving the market. I loved the idea of the post, it had so much potential but flaked out in to a very bland post.
Paul pitched a Pros and Cons kind of post but really wasn’t very decisive in the pros or cons. I would’ve loved to see a list, everyone loves lists. The cons were brief and could well have been expanded on to make for a really gripping post that would’ve done well everywhere. Same goes for the pros. My immediate suggestion would have been to get Mike to list his own pros and cons on the subject and then for Paul to develop what he thinks the pros and cons are or could be. Look I’m being picky on this article because I really think it was a good article but could’ve been great with a bit more care and research. I am sure there are lots of resources that Paul could have made use of and linked to.
The next example really set me on this blog post: “How Muti has successfully built a self-sustainable community“.
This blog post had all the potential to be a sterling analysis of what Muti is, was and might become. It could have been an in-depth look at the community of Muti and how it is self-sustaining. Instead I read two examples supplied in the post one of down voting on Muti and the other was the Afrigator/Regator debacle. Neither told me anything about the Muti community or it’s self-sustaining nature directly. By inference, maybe, but no statements.
The first summed up:
Whether Down-Voting should be brought back or not , but surely there seems to coexist amongst the users , a sense that the overall outcome should act in the best possible interests of the community.
The second in a nutshell:
Along came Regator — which in my opinion looks pretty much similar (but not so supreme) to Afrigator. The community was outraged to an extent that seven posts were seating at the top of muti expressing their disgust towards Regator … But as to whom emerged triumphant? Im not entirely sure.
The only mention of the Afrigator/Regator issue in relation to Muti is above. “Seven posts were seating at the top of muti,” and from that I must deduce how Muti has managed to establish a self-sustaining community?
All that I am saying is that when you write a fantastic headline like How Muti has successfully built a self-sustainable community and have a great idea, have the insight to follow it through. Yasser had the right idea, the right concept but lacked follow through. That’s all.
At the end of the day what you want to avoid is people reading your article and leaving your site while mumbling: “Hmmm that could’ve been a great read”.






Yasser 12:37 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Errr…. Nic, i need to ask 1 Q only — are you the regulator of blogposts in the ZA blogsphere now?
you know what?
i think i need to write a blogpost in response to this!
watch out for it, it’s coming!
Nic 12:40 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
No, not at all. I haven’t even stated that. I just gave you some criticism. Is that not allowed? And look, don’t get so defensive. I’ve given some positive stuff too. You had it all there, waiting to be made brilliant. Take my suggestions or don’t. I don’t get it right most of the time.
It’s just a trend I’ve noticed. No skin off my back if you don’t agree. I look forward to your response!!
Andre 2:46 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
And in the spirit of Web 2.0…
Here’s another (similar) trend, that I’ve noticed, probably more visible to me, ‘cos I read more than I write…
Incoherent comments. People talking the most unbelievable crap, just to get a line down in the comment-stream. Just ‘cos you can, doesn’t mean you must, people. And if you *must*, (for whatever deviant reasons…:) dagnabit, take a moment to compose your thoughts and at least present your ramblings like they’re credible and you spent some time considering the reply, eh?
Oh, one last thing. The automatic assumption of a contrary position does not constitute debate, it just means you’re being contrary all the time…
Don’t be that guy, huh?
rafiq 3:16 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Mind if i use your recipe to squash other recipes and assumptions spectators have?
I hate it when people ASSuME.
- Im adding this line just because i can – I <3 my granny’s cooking
Wogan May 3:17 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Nic, I’m fully with you on this one. There’s no substitute for quality, and in our hyperconnected age, no excuse for the lack of it, either.
I do try to at least give my posts some substance, but I’m generally a more speculative person, and speculation has very few potential links
Overall, yes, South Africa could do it better. Won’t argue with you on that one.
Vince 3:30 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
You know I think we always a need little darkness to see the light; there are I think equally as many coherent and well researched blogs out there as there is bullshit waffle; its simply a matter of looking.
I think what we need to realize is that the “blog”, is perhaps in need of a new monicker; citizen journalists are posing as objective and authoritative reporters online in the form of bloggers and this might be your source of contempt.
You are either a blogger who specializes in personal information (often a cerebral shit-storm) or a high-brown columnist writing online open to critique and debate. It would be very difficult to be both.
Nic we might have to do separate the two don’t you think? Bio-loggers & E-Journos.
(Typical, I rambled again!)
Nic 3:38 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Ja, Vince not a bad thought, but I think you can be both/either/neither. It’s a matter of opinion.
But I do also think that personal bloggers such as MushyPeas is not incoherent, she is funny. There’s a difference. You can be coherent and personal or incoherent and impersonal.
Let me put it to you all this way: Which blogs do you go back to? CopyBlogger? TechCrunch? ReadWriteWeb?
I think maybe, and if so, why? Cause they spew out incoherent and incomplete posts or because they get paid to write well-executed and informative blog posts? You tell me. That’s all I’m really getting at.
Vince 3:45 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
In no way am I saying that bloggers are not credit worthy; but what I’d like to suggest is that there ought to be two very different systems for engaging with them.
I’ll use an anecdote to make my point; I went and watched Kung Fu Panda a couple nights ago and forgot about whatever was stressing me out. I’ve not thought about the movie again. I watched “Gonzo” a few weeks earlier on the life and times of one of my favourite writers Hunter S. Thompson and its been sitting with me in my mind, stuck there like the snap from a snapped twig…
The same can be said of e-journos & bloggers, you wouldn’t really want to spend too much time engaging with Kung Fu Panda Bloggers, but Gonzo Journalists on Thought Leader can be interrogated, given your adulation or torn apart….
Last words from moi, who am I anyway to judge! I have a far more novels on my bedside than feeds on my pc..
Vince 3:46 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Snap = sap..
Cheers again.
Neville Newey 4:42 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Nice post Nic. Do you think that Twitter and the microblogging phenomena have contributed to the decline of coherency on Blogs? Just a thought, would love to hear your opinion on it.
Regards
Nic 4:47 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Neville – great question actually, that didn’t cross my mind.
I’ve been trying to do an experiment around the microblogging thing on here instead of twitter but can’t get the discipline down.
About 5 years ago I wrote a paper on this topic. How SMS was making the youth stupid (applies to IM and new lingo). How people don’t know how to spell simple words like “Where” and “Before”… wer and b4… same thing could very well apply.
Cape Town's Favourite Son 4:55 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Hey Nic,
I think sometimes bloggers also feel pressurised to write something new every day – they think of a somewhat clever idea, but do not follow through correctly because of time constraints.
Either that or they’re just crap writers.
Nic 4:58 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Cape Town’s Favourite – so glad you popped in. Agreed, I think that bloggers (myself included) feel huge pressure to keep up, blog or die etc etc. It’s a tough balance between writing for the love of it, trying to compete, make a name, earn money and keep your content fresh and relevant.
Or we’re all just crap writers?!
Yasser 5:58 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
wooooooow , seems like the post i wrote is a little bit overwhelming for certain people, it certainly created a buzz! — me , myself , i can sense it big time!
You know what?
actually , i’m not even gonna waste my energy trynna write a response blogpost to this post like i initially promised in my comment.
Look man, I don’t gotta promote it for you to know that my blogging style is unique — this blogging thing?, i enjoy it, i write whatever i wanna write, How i wanna write it! Simple as that!
So don’t come up to me, accusing me that my blogposts are incoherent! WTF?
But don’t get it twisted, (im not initiating a blogging beef! )— what im not saying However, is that my style ain’t superior to anybody here or anything like that,— the fact that i’m Not a “Me too” type of person like most people are in the localblogsphere (Y’all know what im talking about), gets me noticed by people who think in a certain way — im unique , i try to differentiate my style from anybody else’s particularly in the local blogsphere and you know what? unique people get noticed ,,, hence you’re noticing!
i have a certain philosophy , you only better than your last blogpost, and if you happen to be unique enough , or creative enough — people will pay attention, and if you can write a post expressing whatever you wish while what you writing about is actually interesting, then you truly are interesting! — i’m not here to justify to anybody my style of bloggin … it’s all about a certain way of thinking— with my style , you can actually feel what im trynna convey in my own unique way of thinking.
This is what causes people to notice you , not because you write well or your a blogging machine —- Lastly, if you’re inclined to think that my posts has to be coherent to anything whatsoever ? — then you obviously need to think again!
aaaiiiiggghttt?
Happy Blogging everybody!
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Nic 10:49 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
Yasser, look, I tried to be positively critical, I tried to let you know that it wasn’t a personal dig at you, I tried, I did. But you clearly have no clue.
Goodluck to you. One thing to remember is it’s probably not a good thing to be noticed for something bad… Being unique is great, but being uniquely problematic is still problematic.
I’m not saying you aren’t unique, interesting, a blogger, writer, or whatever it is that you want to be. I’m saying you can be better, always… if you think you’re perfect, goodluck to you but I disagree.
Wogan May 6:23 am on July 11, 2008 Permalink
“Uniquely problematic”, lol. Love that phrase
I suppose this is more evidence in a similar direction – Nic, you’re not the only one worried about this, lol: http://is.gd/QNK
~ Wogan
Vincent Maher 10:16 am on July 11, 2008 Permalink
Nic, dude, wtf
Sean 3:47 pm on July 11, 2008 Permalink
I’m totally with Nic on this one, and also couldn’t agree more that he’s not having a personal dig at Yasser.
Yasser, it is also important to note that Nic is no fool, he runs SA Rocks, he runs his own blog, is a qualified journalist PLUS he works at The Mail and Guardian online, so I’m confident that he knows what he is talking about.
In the online world, it takes months, possibly years, to build up a good name, and for people to trust and respect you.
If you want trust and respect in return, there are certain unwritten codes that you follow. And by that I mean you act in a mature way in your arguments, which you clearly have not done here. Your blog started in December 2007 I see, which is not long ago.
You might want to rush into things and comment here to get you noticed, but not all publicity is good publicity. Let time go on, and don’t try and rush into building a name for yourself. Nothing is easy and everything takes time.
The blogging world is full of business minds, intelligent people, and the blogging world interacts very closely with the real word. By this I mean people you meet through blogging very often present you with lucrative business opportunities in real life.
So it’s important to realise that the way you conduct yourself online does have an effect on your real world working and business relationships.
Just a thought.
Yasser 4:56 pm on July 11, 2008 Permalink
Big up to Sean!
Your words are so true , and very inspiring!
you know what?
i take everything back i said,
i fully regret my actions , if i caused any harm i truly appologise for it!
i was angry when i wrote that , and people tend to say wrong stuff whenever they angry.
Afterall– i’m just a young dude who is open to anything and who’s tryanna learn new stuff all the time.
This is discussion is one valuable lesson i learned , and a one i will always reflect on all the time.
is it fair to say that this is my public apology?
regards,
Yasser ,
Happy Blogging everybody!
Sean 6:02 pm on July 11, 2008 Permalink
No worries dude, I just thought I would throw some constructive criticism into the debate. I think it happens to a lot of people when they start blogging but we all learn…I know I did, I went through the same things.
That’s the big point about online media, is that it’s so easy to throw opinions around without thinking about them and their consequences. In the old media world we had editors who were trained and watched over us- but now- we are the editors and we have a great deal of responsibility on our shoulders even though we are just regular people with regular opinions.
I always see blogging as a bigger version of drunk dialling, where we too often do things without really thinking. It’s as easy as pressing “publish” on our blog programs to make out opinions and views heard, and it’s a big responsibility even though we might not see it as that.
So yeah, my ten cents worth.
Respect
Paul Slade 8:02 am on July 12, 2008 Permalink
Hey Nic,
Shot for the mention and for the constructive crit. As a relative newbie to the blogging space, its this kind of feedback that I love – its ensures that I step up my game.
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Johan Swarts 12:34 pm on January 21, 2009 Permalink
I’m only reading this now (via Stii’s blog). Brilliant post! I completely agree with you. The last thing the internets(sic) needs is more rubbish.
Nic 12:41 pm on January 21, 2009 Permalink
Hey Johan, thanks for the comment. Ye, we need to keep clear of crap, unfortunately since writing this my grammar and spelling has gone to hell!!
Oh the irony.
Johan Swarts 12:56 pm on January 21, 2009 Permalink
Sies!