Comments on: Conflicts of interest -What happened to ethics? http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/ onlinemobilecitizensocialmediaandmore Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:42:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bring bloggers and editors together : nicharalambous.com http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2286 Bring bloggers and editors together : nicharalambous.com Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:22:24 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2286 [...] here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting and do come back.My post about Charl Norman and Intelligence magazine seems to have raised some interesting [...] [...] here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting and do come back.My post about Charl Norman and Intelligence magazine seems to have raised some interesting [...]

]]> By: Marc http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2285 Marc Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:16:38 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2285 Charl ... Your byline reads: "Welcome to the online presence of 23 yr old Charl Norman, web entrepreneur, blogger, freelance journalist and event promoter.".... You said it not me. I'm not trying to make an issue but everybody has this debate around the difference between a blogger and a journalist. You get bloggers who are technically proficient at writing - good for them - its something thats dying out and you can see it in all forms of media and in the schools. However understanding the "rules" around traditional media ("Disclosure" in this instance being what the whole article was about) - The blog post was raised about somebody using an article in traditional media to promote 2 of their own offerings as Top 10 Start Ups... "The thing that really irks me is the fact that this article is branded as journalism..." - I agree with this comment whole heartedly... Lets flip it around for a moment and say you were competing for a prize of R10k for being that Top Start Up or whatever. Your Main Competitor was writing promo material for it, judging it and then winning the competition. Everyone would turn around and ask where the disclosure and the standards are to win that prize? The reality is Journalists have to work to a standard to write their pay cheque at the end of a month... A blogger has no standards to work with and this impacts on credibility in this instance...?? Agree? Charl … Your byline reads: “Welcome to the online presence of 23 yr old Charl Norman, web entrepreneur, blogger, freelance journalist and event promoter.”…. You said it not me.

I’m not trying to make an issue but everybody has this debate around the difference between a blogger and a journalist.

You get bloggers who are technically proficient at writing – good for them – its something thats dying out and you can see it in all forms of media and in the schools. However understanding the “rules” around traditional media (“Disclosure” in this instance being what the whole article was about) –
The blog post was raised about somebody using an article in traditional media to promote 2 of their own offerings as Top 10 Start Ups…

“The thing that really irks me is the fact that this article is branded as journalism…” – I agree with this comment whole heartedly…

Lets flip it around for a moment and say you were competing for a prize of R10k for being that Top Start Up or whatever. Your Main Competitor was writing promo material for it, judging it and then winning the competition. Everyone would turn around and ask where the disclosure and the standards are to win that prize?

The reality is Journalists have to work to a standard to write their pay cheque at the end of a month…

A blogger has no standards to work with and this impacts on credibility in this instance…??

Agree?

]]> By: Nic http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2284 Nic Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:12:52 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2284 @Vince - Great Idea. @Vince – Great Idea.

]]> By: Vincent Maher http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2283 Vincent Maher Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:11:02 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2283 It's simple really - if you have a conflict of interest you should declare it to the editor and in the story. A conflict of interest could be writing about yourself, writing about your friends, writing about a company you work for, writing about a sponsor and so on. If any bloggers are interested, I would be happy to organise a session between bloggers and our editor as an ethics and legal primer. Anyone interested? Email me vincent@vincentmaher.com It’s simple really – if you have a conflict of interest you should declare it to the editor and in the story. A conflict of interest could be writing about yourself, writing about your friends, writing about a company you work for, writing about a sponsor and so on.

If any bloggers are interested, I would be happy to organise a session between bloggers and our editor as an ethics and legal primer. Anyone interested? Email me vincent@vincentmaher.com

]]> By: Charl http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2282 Charl Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:04:35 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2282 @Marc, it was never stated that I was a journalist. @Marc, it was never stated that I was a journalist.

]]> By: Nic http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2279 Nic Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:18:23 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2279 @Chris M - Think I agree with you on this one, circles! But let's bash it out now, once and for all! @Marco - Valid point but very pedantic. Most of the journo's I work with can't spell at all, that's what Subs are for! :) @Charl - Vince is a trained journalist, so no surprise that you read him, Mike's a smart guy, so no surprise there either! :) @Chris M – Think I agree with you on this one, circles! But let’s bash it out now, once and for all!

@Marco – Valid point but very pedantic. Most of the journo’s I work with can’t spell at all, that’s what Subs are for! :)

@Charl – Vince is a trained journalist, so no surprise that you read him, Mike’s a smart guy, so no surprise there either! :)

]]> By: Marc http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2276 Marc Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:56:59 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2276 Sorry my post seems to have been cut short there with the arrows: Sentence 1 is incomplete and gramatically incorrect. Sentence 2 has a very poor typo in it... This cannot be journalism. Sorry my post seems to have been cut short there with the arrows:

Sentence 1 is incomplete and gramatically incorrect.

Sentence 2 has a very poor typo in it…

This cannot be journalism.

]]> By: Marc http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2275 Marc Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:54:30 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2275 Sorry I am going to point out the difference between a blogger and a supposed journalist..... Maybe its pedantic but if you can't write an English sentence then its tough to be classified as a 'journalist' Sentence 1 of his 2 sentence intro -------> "An article I wrote a few weeks back on Bandwidthblog about South Africa’s startups to watch was published this past week. I was prevliged enough to get the article published in the November issue of Intelligence Mag. <----- What exactly is "prevliged"??? Charl may be an entrepreneur and a blogger but if that classifies as journalism quality writing then... Sorry I am going to point out the difference between a blogger and a supposed journalist….. Maybe its pedantic but if you can’t write an English sentence then its tough to be classified as a ‘journalist’

Sentence 1 of his 2 sentence intro
——-> “An article I wrote a few weeks back on Bandwidthblog about South Africa’s startups to watch was published this past week. I was prevliged enough to get the article published in the November issue of Intelligence Mag. <—– What exactly is “prevliged”???

Charl may be an entrepreneur and a blogger but if that classifies as journalism quality writing then…

]]> By: Charl http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2255 Charl Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:17:49 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2255 One of the reasons I buy Intelligence magazine is to see what Vince and Mike has to say, who are both prominent bloggers. I think this has been a good post to educate bloggers on the ethics of journalism as more and more bloggers will see their work published in print publications. One of the reasons I buy Intelligence magazine is to see what Vince and Mike has to say, who are both prominent bloggers.

I think this has been a good post to educate bloggers on the ethics of journalism as more and more bloggers will see their work published in print publications.

]]> By: Chris M http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2254 Chris M Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:15:28 +0000 http://nicharalambous.com/2007/11/15/conflicts-of-interest-are-charl-normans-ethics-in-place/#comment-2254 I see comments here going in circles :) I see comments here going in circles :)

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