Any trained and qualified journalist knows that ethics are of great importance when writing an article. The topic, angle and genre of the article are irrelevant when it comes to ethics. They should always be present.
I would like to take Charl Norman to task in this regard. I read this Muti’d article from his blog and have an issue with the entire concept.
Firstly the list that Charl has compiled is obvious to an extent, no problem with that for the most part. However there are two inclusions that I think fall under conflict of interest. What is this list based upon? Opinion, choose, random selection?
How could Charl have written an article wherein he names two of his own products as top web startups to watch? It’s one thing to claim this on your personal blog as a blogger. But when the byline of the article states that the writer is a blogger, freelance journalist and web entrepreneur and then advertises his own blog I have a problem.
That is some sort of paid advertising or an advertorial article. I immediately get the feeling while reading the article that the idea for the article stems from a want to promote Blueworld and to a lesser extent ZoopedUp.
I am not saying this is the case, I am just saying that this is how I feel when I read the article.
Intelligence should be weary of making this sort of thing a habit. The article is fine but would have been better served written by a journalist not involved in the content directly. In fact the best outcome would and should have been to look at Charl’s blog post and ask an “objective” journalist to base a more extensive article on the blog post.
All that Intelligence have done (in a not-so-intelligent manner) is helped to promote Charl’s projects and along the way maybe include some other cool projects.
I am all for promotion of web startups in SA and any promotion is great. But comes a point where the line must be drawn. The thing that really urks me is the fact that this article is branded as journalism. There is a fine line between bloggers and journalists. They are not one in the same thing at all and don’t claim that they are. The article that appeared in the magazine was an expanded blog post for an author looking to self-advertise, on some level at least.
Ethics are becoming scarce and I hope this isn’t a trend that continues. New media is not a quick fix for larger magazines to fill pages with content. Let us not fall in to that trap.






Justin Hartman 11:01 am on November 15, 2007 Permalink
I think you make a very good point. I didn’t actually think about that at all but you’re right – the line shouldn’t and can’t be crossed. It starts with something innocent like this and before long we won’t have journalistic integrity on any level..
Uno de Waal 12:09 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Isn’t that sort of the point about blogging? That things are subjective…
That’s why mainstream media will probably stay popular – because of the element of moderation and editorial process.
Can you outline how his post is different from this one.
Nic 12:26 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Uno – good point, but I think you missed the gist of what I am saying. Charl can willingly go ahead and post whatever he wants on his blog. But Intelligence should not have published the story written by Charl.
My SA Rocks post was blatently subjective, not published in a big magazine and did not include any of my own websites.
Simone Puterman 12:56 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Nic, that is exactly what I pointed out to my editor when she forwarded me Charl’s blog post for possible mention on Bizcommunity a while ago – told her it wasn’t an objective list.
Grant Sidwell 1:16 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
This could have been easily solved with one line.
*Disclaimer: The author is involved in this project.
Or something along those lines. I thought the article was very good otherwise.
Darren 1:24 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Well spotted Nic – I don’t know how many others picked up on it [I sure didn't either]. Whether the responsibility lies with Charl or with Intelligence is probably debatable, but the fact is it shouldn’t happen.
Interesting to see a bit of self-governance coming in to play here online… I wonder if Intelligence will follow suit and put a formal response in their next issue.
Charl 2:46 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Hi Nic, sorry for the late reply, I don’t read your blog so I only saw this now on Muti
When I initially wrote the startups article I wanted to help promote all the great new startups in SA and create a list to separate quality startups from those below par (much like your digspot ’social network’)
When I got the chance to elaborate the article for Intelligence I jumped at the chance and didn’t take a second to think of your point at all – which is very valid. Your 100% right.
Intelligence was not aware that I have shares in the social networks Blueworld.co.za and Zoopedup.com – so this is entirely my fault.
That being said I do believe Zoop and BW are quality offerings and deserve their place in the list, although I should’ve added, as Grant said, that I was involved in the two networks. Again my bad.
I’ve learnt from this (I call myself a freelance journalist but have never really done tech articles before, all my previous work published was auto related)
I’m glad some liked the article – I just wanted to help bring the spotlight to SA startups instead of reading month after month about digg, facebook and myspace
Nic 3:48 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Hey Charl,
Thanks for your response, I appreciate your approach. I did like the article too, it just lost its appeal for me and that’s why I wrote this post!
I personally do think that more blame is to be placed on the magazines editorial staff than simply because they should be more aware of this sort of issue.
Charl 4:10 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
The Intelligence editors are great guys and could not have known I was a partner in Zoop or BW. I never included this in the original bandwidthblog piece or the modified article I submitted to them as we have several partners
I guess I was blinded by the excitement of getting exposure for all the startup profiled, yes, including our company. You always read about Synth, Afri, Ama and Muti but the other 6 startups hardly get mainstream attention.
When I write my follow up article on “SA’s worse startups” I will be sure to take in mind what you said. (;
Chris M 4:31 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Nice article, nothing better than reading a strong, well written article.
This is a tough one! I read Charl’s article when it was first released. I have read your blog post. I have read Charl’s article again, and reread yours. I honestly cannot decide which direction to go in.
I am not against self promotion in the slightest. One needs to self promote before others do, must get the word out, etc.
I cannot take sides on this one, although I’ve seen Charl’s work plenty of times and my loyalty lies with him based on his fantastic previous work.
Vincent Maher 4:38 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
A declaration of interest is important, even on a blog, for this kind of thing.
So Nic should have said he was punting his cronies on his post on SA Rocks, Charl should have told the Intelligence editor about his involvement and let them decide, and declared it.
Sorry to say it but bloggers are wet behind the ears when it comes to this sort of thing, whereas journalists have learned it through centuries of institutional memory. This is also why it’s much more of an offense for a journalist to do it than a blogger.
I agree with Charl’s choice to put BW in there though, it deserves to be there.
Neville Newey 5:14 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
I must say that when I read the article I already new that Charl was involved in BW and Zooped and this did not bother me at all. He gave equal coverage to all, and it was very factual. In other words if you didn’t know that Charl was involved in two of them you could not have guessed it from the article.
I do see the point though of a small disclaimer.
Mike 6:11 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
I agree with Vincent. By sheer dumb luck I’ve landed up with a few opportunities to contribute to print, sometimes on a regular basis, but my lack of journalistic training often means I am short on both ethics (unintentionally) and quality (genetically).
Bloggers are wet behind the ears, and the quandary is that they are starting to fin themselves transported from the social to the print medium.
My call to journalists would be to help educate, not castigate. Especially if you operate in both media.
Lastly (and totally subjectively), I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Charl a few times now and if anyone has earned the right to a bit of self-promotion it is him – the boy is a machine.
Tertia 8:21 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
“My call to journalists would be to help educate, not castigate.”
Hear hear Mike
So sick and tired of “journalists” who never tire to point out that they (according to themselves) are higher up on the food chain than bloggers are. Blogger / journalist who cares! It is almost as bad as the true geek vs wanna be geek debacle. Grrr!
Not that this has anything to do with the post in question. Or that it gets up my nose. Heh.
Nic 10:12 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
Mike, you’ve missed the point. Whether Charl deserves to self promote or not is irrelevant. I deserve to be a millionaire, but Im not one yet. Simple.
The ethics are of the utmost importance, intentionally or unintentionally the article should’ve had checks and balances in place. Vince will disagree with me and berate me, but I don’t care really!
The fact is Intelligence should have done a better job editorially, not Charl. Charl in future should know that whether the article is written objectively or not, his personal situation tainted it and that’s it. Next time he must just be aware. This is me, as a journalist, trying to point out a mistake.
I have now done so, it is out there and this is the lesson so now bloggers know!
I am sure that if I were to meet Charl (even though he doesn’t read my blog) I would have lots to talk to him about, but that doesn’t mean I should keep my mouth shut cause he’s a “good oke”.
Chris M 11:15 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
I see comments here going in circles
Charl 11:17 pm on November 15, 2007 Permalink
One of the reasons I buy Intelligence magazine is to see what Vince and Mike has to say, who are both prominent bloggers.
I think this has been a good post to educate bloggers on the ethics of journalism as more and more bloggers will see their work published in print publications.
Marc 6:54 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
Sorry I am going to point out the difference between a blogger and a supposed journalist….. Maybe its pedantic but if you can’t write an English sentence then its tough to be classified as a ‘journalist’
Sentence 1 of his 2 sentence intro
——-> “An article I wrote a few weeks back on Bandwidthblog about South Africa’s startups to watch was published this past week. I was prevliged enough to get the article published in the November issue of Intelligence Mag. <—– What exactly is “prevliged”???
Charl may be an entrepreneur and a blogger but if that classifies as journalism quality writing then…
Marc 6:56 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
Sorry my post seems to have been cut short there with the arrows:
Sentence 1 is incomplete and gramatically incorrect.
Sentence 2 has a very poor typo in it…
This cannot be journalism.
Nic 8:18 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
@Chris M – Think I agree with you on this one, circles! But let’s bash it out now, once and for all!
@Marco – Valid point but very pedantic. Most of the journo’s I work with can’t spell at all, that’s what Subs are for!
@Charl – Vince is a trained journalist, so no surprise that you read him, Mike’s a smart guy, so no surprise there either!
Charl 10:04 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
@Marc, it was never stated that I was a journalist.
Vincent Maher 11:11 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
It’s simple really – if you have a conflict of interest you should declare it to the editor and in the story. A conflict of interest could be writing about yourself, writing about your friends, writing about a company you work for, writing about a sponsor and so on.
If any bloggers are interested, I would be happy to organise a session between bloggers and our editor as an ethics and legal primer. Anyone interested? Email me vincent@vincentmaher.com
Nic 11:12 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
@Vince – Great Idea.
Marc 11:16 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
Charl … Your byline reads: “Welcome to the online presence of 23 yr old Charl Norman, web entrepreneur, blogger, freelance journalist and event promoter.”…. You said it not me.
I’m not trying to make an issue but everybody has this debate around the difference between a blogger and a journalist.
You get bloggers who are technically proficient at writing – good for them – its something thats dying out and you can see it in all forms of media and in the schools. However understanding the “rules” around traditional media (”Disclosure” in this instance being what the whole article was about) –
The blog post was raised about somebody using an article in traditional media to promote 2 of their own offerings as Top 10 Start Ups…
“The thing that really irks me is the fact that this article is branded as journalism…” – I agree with this comment whole heartedly…
Lets flip it around for a moment and say you were competing for a prize of R10k for being that Top Start Up or whatever. Your Main Competitor was writing promo material for it, judging it and then winning the competition. Everyone would turn around and ask where the disclosure and the standards are to win that prize?
The reality is Journalists have to work to a standard to write their pay cheque at the end of a month…
A blogger has no standards to work with and this impacts on credibility in this instance…??
Agree?
Bring bloggers and editors together : nicharalambous.com 11:22 am on November 16, 2007 Permalink
[...] here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting and do come back.My post about Charl Norman and Intelligence magazine seems to have raised some interesting [...]